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Reverse Porn Search Tips

edited August 2016 in General Talk
Hello pervs

For some time now I have been playing "porn detective" at Smutty, and I have managed to identify hundreds of actresses and movies from random images and clips (as you can see here). Many people have asked me how I do it so I decided to post a brief guide on how to reverse search porn. In this thread I will list most of the tools, techniques, tips, and tricks I have learned since I started this hobby. I don't claim to be the best --and I definitely cannot find everything-- but at least I wanted to share what little I know.


INDEX

1. BASIC SEARCH TOOLS

I find most of the names and sources I am requested using reverse image search engines. They are websites where you can upload or link an image to the system, and then it tells you in which other sites you can find that image. That alone is not a guarantee of finding a name or source but at the very least it can give you clues on where to look next.

Most of the engines can be reached directly from the browser using extensions, although in some cases there is no choice but to go to the website itself. I will mention this as well at the end of the post. These are the engines I use most, in order of importance:
  • Google Search by Image (https://images.google.com/) - It is, unsurprisingly, the best of all engines, although it does have some limitations. I will dedicate the next entry entirely to how to get the best of it.

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  • KarmaDecay (http://karmadecay.com/) - This tool was created specifically to search images on Reddit.com. There are lots of subreddits dedicated to porn, and given the large number of users on them it is normal to find names and sources on the comments of the post (if the OP didn't identified them on the first place), so even though the database it draws from is much more limited than others it actually offer much better results.

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  • NameThatPornstar Reverse Image Search (http://namethatpornstar.com/reverse/index.php) - This is the search engine of the NameThatPornstar identification site, where people post images and ask for names and sources. Because, if someone has already identified it, what's the point of looking it up again?

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  • Yandex Image Search (http://yandex.ru/images/) - It is not nearly as powerful as Google, and its browser extensions usually don't work, but it draws from sites Western search engines ignore so it can offer alternative results.

    NOTE: In order to get better results please make sure to turn the moderation filter off. To do so click on the shield you will find in the top-right corner and select the top option (Без защиты). If you did it right there will be a lightning bolt on the shield now.

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  • TinEye (http://www.tineye.com/) - It was the first engine that became popular but has long since been overtaken by Google. Also, it is not as good finding adult images as it does other kinds. Particularly, it has a tendency to draw images from TGP and pinboard sites (which do not make good sources), and its listings are often outdated, so the results it offers are frequently pointless. Nonetheless, the fact it looks into alternative sources and keeps old records makes it sometimes useful when other engines cannot find results.

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  • Bing Search by Image (http://www.bing.com/images/searchbyimage/) - It is also not nearly as powerful as Google, and its results are usually closer to TinEye than to the other engines on this list. I usually only check it when I cannot find anything on the rest of engines, just in case there is a link here the others have not.

    NOTE: The 'Image Match' function has been removed from the website, but you can still make reverse searches with Bing using KarmaDecay or ImgOps, which give you the option to search in the former among others.


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Honorable mentions:
  • IQDB Multi-service image search (http://iqdb.org/) - This is a tool dedicated to manga and anime. It sometimes can also find Japanese porn images (usually from the Gelbooru forum) but it is not very reliable, and since I'm not asked about Hentai often I barely use this.
  • Baidu Image Search (http://image.baidu.com/) - The few times I have tried using this engine I found barely anything or nothing at all, and when I do it's hard to make sense of everything since I don't speak Chinese, so I try not to use it unless I'm desperate.

Since uploading each image on all sites every time would be a nuisance, there are browser extensions that allow you to search with one right click:
There are also some extensions that allow you to search in different engines at the same time:
  • Find similar images [Chrome] - It searches in Google, TinEye, Yandex
    (although it doesn't work), IQDB and Karma Decay. NOTE: this extension
    has recently been deleted from the Chrome web store.
  • Image Search Options [Chrome] [Firefox] - Searches in SauceNAO, IQDB, TinEye, Google, Baidu, Yandex and others.
And in case you can't use extensions or you simply don't trust them, you can always upload the image to ImgOps (http://imgops.com/), which allows to search in Google, Bing, TinEye, Reddit (through Karma Decay), Yandex & Baidu.


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  • edited March 2015
    2. GOOGLE (I)

    The Google search engine is very precise, which is actually a problem. When you reverse search an image it tries to find an exact copy of that image or the closest thing to it while other engines are content with offering you similar but not identical pictures. That means that if the image you are searching has been altered in some way it might not offer you any results.

    One of the most common alterations is watermarks. If the picture you are reverse searching has one Google will try to find copies of the image with it, which in some cases prevents from getting any results. This happens particularly often with the watermarks that Smutty (and other similar pinboards) automatically add to pictures posted on their sites:

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    Here's what you get when you upload that same image without the watermark:

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    Something similar happens with watermarks from websites other than those from producers (which are rarely listed on search engines and would actually help in your search) like forums or blogs. This gif has two watermarks, one from the shitty xxGifs, and another one from a Tumblr (whose owner may or may not have created the gif). As such, Google cannot find anything:

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    But if you search the image without the xxGifs watermark you do get results:

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    However, this problem is not limited to watermarks. Alterations to the format of the images can also limit the number of results. Particularly, Google seems to be pretty sensitive to colour changes. Even worse if there is a black and white filter involved. Take for example this search:

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    As you can see there are no results because the colours have been altered. However, if you search the original image things are vastly different:

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    This can happens sometimes if the image you are searching is way too big or way too small. In any case, and as a conclusion, it is always best to reverse search the least altered and most standard image you can find (from a different engine, or if you do happen to have different versions of it).
  • edited March 2015

    3. GOOGLE (II)



    When you reverse-search certain images (ones that I assume have been shared or posted more than the usual) Google offers you a suggestion of what may be the source or something related to it.

    If you are lucky, it might give you the name you have been looking for straightaway:

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    However, usually you will only get some generic description:

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    Or, and this happens quite often, you will get the name of a Tumblr blog, Twitter account or similar media profile that has made that image popular, which is rarely helpful (social media make bad sources).

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    The big problem with these suggestions is that they sometimes limit the results and they can't be removed. Once Google assigns certain words to an image there is no way of making a search without them (if you delete the text and click on the search button or press Enter nothing happens). Your only option is to change those words for different, more helpful ones.

    Something I do is substitute the suggestion for a single dot (.), the reasoning being that any website contains a dot somewhere, so I should get more results. It doesn't always work but at worst the results will be the same. As an example, here's the number of results you get with the picture above if you don't remove the suggested words:

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    And here's what happens when you substitute those words for a dot:

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    The best thing to do, though, is to try to change the suggestion for some appropriate keyword
    so you can get more accurate sources. This is also something you can do to weed out too many results in a search. 

    Which keyword to choose will depend on each search. For example:
    • If you already have the pornstar name you can use it to find the source or viceversa.
    • If you suspect an image comes from a specific producer (Brazzers, MetArt, Kink) you can try introducing it. Even if it's not from there, you will get related results.
    • If you suspect a picture comes from a professional photographer, not a porn medium, you can use "photography", "model", or a publishing site like Modelmayhem, 500px, DeviantArt, etc...
    • If you don't have a clue you can refine your search with a keyword that describes the most relevant aspect of the image to find a description that might include the name or source (interracial, redhead, beach).
    • Or, if you feel lucky, you can try a keyword that might lead directly to a source, like "gallery", "profile", "video", "download". This rarely works, though.
  • edited January 2016

    4. SOURCES

    A common problem when looking for a source is having too many search results instead of too few (or none at all). There are way, WAY too many junk porn websites that just post random images without any kind of source, and at the beginning I lost too much time checking all results. Now, however, I tend to only look into the kind of websites that I know will at the very least offer some information to find the source.  For that purpose, I classify websites into one of three kinds.

    Generally good:

    • Affiliation galleries - Most professional porn producers have affiliation programs to promote their sites. These programs provide quality sample videos and galleries affiliates can post in your website, which for obvious reasons are properly credited. Places like Freeones, DefineBabe, or CoedCherry are among the best to find a source.

    • Art communities - Actually, in many cases these are a source, not a means to find one. Nonetheless, photographers post their pictures in many different places, and too often they do not credit their models, so even if you do find a link to one of these sites you might have to still dig around a bit. Most common examples are DeviantArt, ModelMayhem, 500px, Photosight, etc.

    • Downloading sites - I do not condone illegal downloads but the fact is these sites exist, and despite all effort of copyright holders they are still being listed by search engines. Most of them offer screenshots along the download links, and those are the ones you can sometimes find with a reverse search.

    • Identification sites - Obviously, the best place to find a source is the one whose purpose is exactly that. The best and biggest one is NameThatPornstar, which is being listed more often by search engines now, so even though it doesn't always guarantee a result it's a must-check. And there's also NameThatPorn, which despite being a blatant rip-off of the former with fake users and sketchy advertising it's actually starting to gain traction, and now there's a reasonable number of solved requests.

    Can be good or bad:
    • Tumblr - Most bloggers just repost whatever images they like without worrying much about the source (or, even worse, adding a caption that has nothing to do with it), so in general Tumblr does not make a good source. There are, however, a number of blogs that like creating original gifs, and they do usually name the source. These are easy to identify because they place unique and more or less elaborate watermarks on their own creations, so if you find one it's worth it checking them first. 

    • Forums - Male-centric forums, even those completely unrelated to sex, usually have threads or even entire sections dedicated to posting pics of naked women. Most of them don't care about crediting anything so they make bad sources. There are however a number of forums dedicated to sex like Forumophilia, FreeOnes, HungAngels, Phun, PlanetSuzy, Porn-w, or Vintage-Erotica-Forum, which do care about the names and sources of the pictures, gifs or videos they post and make excellent sources. In particular, PlanetSuzy has a very good ID section that has helped me many times.

    • Bulletin boards - Similar situation as with forums, sites like 4chan and its army of clones usually post images for the sake of it without crediting anything, except when they are dedicated to one girl in particular (because they are usually girls, not women), so generally they don't make good sources. But also as with forums there are exceptions, like the 'Request' section of fgts.jp, which is similar to the one in PlanetSuzy only usually less successful and with a lot more name-calling.
    Mostly bad:
    • Cloned image galleries - In recent years it's become very easy for anyone to set up their own cheap porn site using a template (Wordpress is widely used) and images stolen from other websites. Their only purpose is to attract traffic to earn money with ad popups and banners, so they don't bother giving names. They are optimized for search engines, though, and show up everywhere like a bad rash. Avoid at all costs.

    • Pinboards - Pinterest spawned a great deal of clones and imitators, a bunch of which were dedicated to porn. Most of them were eventually closed but there are still a few of them around, most notably the one simply called 'sex'. The vast majority of people using those pinboards don't care about sources, they only want to collect the images they like, so you will very rarely find names in there.

    • Social Media - Worst offender in this category is Twitter by far, but I would recommend also avoiding Instagram, VK, and even Flickr* (I do not mention Facebook because despite being considered so unsafe they are actually not listed by Google). Their users just retweet, like, and forward uncredited pictures compulsively and they are pushed to the top results, so unless you happen to come across the actual account of the source (which you are most likely not be aware of at that point) it's just not worth checking them.

      * Unless you are looking for a picture clearly made by a non-porn professional photographer or posted by a non-porn model, in which case Instagram, VK or, less often, Flickr are actually better sources than the rest.

    Since ain't nobody got time for remembering the names of all the sources you might find in a Google search I use a browser extension to hide the bad ones. Personal Blocklist (Chrome) adds a link to the search results to block any domain from your searches (those results are not completely lost, just hidden from view, and there is a link at the bottom of each search results page with blocked links to show them if you want). Once you have blocked enough bad results (I'm over 500 domains so far) your search results will be much more clean and accurate, making it usually faster to find what you want.

  • edited January 2016

    5. GIFS & VIDEOS


    GIFS

    Most animated gifs can be searched in the same way as a static picture, using the engines mentioned above. The problem is that gifs are created from random parts of a video (unlike pics, that are taken as such from the source), so they are usually harder to find. These are the steps I follow:

    • First, I search them using NameThatPornstar or KarmaDecay, in case someone has already posted the information on NTP or reddit.
    • If not, I use the rest of engines to see if the first frame of the gif (which is what the engines use) matches a screenshot posted by somewhere else with the proper credits.
    • If that fails, the next step is to find the gif creator/uploader. Tumblr gif makers always watermark their creations and sometimes provide the credits in their posts, so the aim is to find the original post and see if the information is there. The engines do not always list them, but if it is indeed watermarked and we know the approximate posting date then it can be searched manually.
    • As a last resort (when the gif maker didn't credit the models and nobody has identified them), I use one trick. As I said above, reverse search engines use only the first frame of the gif, but there is always the possibility that other frames match a screenshot posted and credited by others. So, I use a gif editor like ezgif to split the gif in all its frames and then I make a new search using the ones that I feel are more likely to provide any results. For this, I find Yandex is most useful.


    LARGE GIFS & VIDEOS

    Currently there is not a tool to reverse search videos (at least not for general use; there is actually one to identify videos for copyright purposes that only professionals use), so you have to get more creative to find them. I normally use two methods: either a manual search, or using screenshots. They are both kind of cumbersome, but if done properly they can yields results.

    I will write more about manual searches in the next (and probably last) comment. Regarding the other way, there is not much to explain: you take a tool, app or program like Window's Snipping Tool (which is the one I use) and take a screenshot of the video in the moment you will think is most likely to produce results (like, for instance, the first few seconds that are used as a presentation in the websites, or the money shot in the end). Some video players allow to pause it without leaving any GUI elements on the screen, so you can choose the frame freely, but they are the exception. Normally you have to leave the video running and take the screenshot on the go, so you need to time it properly or it will be too blurry. I take several screenshots of what I think are the key moments of the video (beginning, the different positions, money shot), save them, and then search them normally using the engines. As I said, this is pretty cumbersome, but it is usually the only way.

    Large gifs suffer from the same issues. In fact, nowadays large gifs are usually short videos that do not even have the .gif extension although they are considered as such. But even when they do have the extension they often cannot be handled by the search engines (the limit is usually around 5Mb), so you need to find another way. Again, I either perform a manual search or take screenshots. There are usually three cases:

    • When the gif is in video format you can usually do a right click and open it in a new tab or window, which will reveal the video player controls. These controls allow to pause it without leaving visible elements, so it is easy to take a screenshot.
    • If the gif has a .gif extension and is smaller than 16Mb, you can still use ezgif to split it and search the most appropriate frames.
    • If the gif has a .gif extension but it's bigger than 16Mb and for some reason you cannot switch to the video version with player controls, then you don't have a choice but to take a screenshot on the go. Alternatively, there are browser apps that allow to pause gifs (I don't use any because they have given me troubles in the past, but maybe things have improved).
  • edited August 2016
    6. MANUAL SEARCH

    When everything fails, my last resort is to perform a manual search in Google. And by that I mean introducing some terms in the search engine and peruse the results until I find what I'm looking for. This is obviously many times a shot in the dark, but even so I am successful on occasion.

    The difficulty in manual searches depends entirely on how much information you have about that image or video. When looking for a source I search both the name of the performer (almost always female, although every now and then I look for males too), and the website or brand that produced it. If you happen to have one of these, the search will obviously be easier and quicker. But even if you have nothing to start with there are still ways to find it.

    SEARCHES WITH PARTIAL INFORMATION

    If you happen to have the name of the performer or the producer of the scene/album, there is a number of professional resources that can help you find the rest of the information quickly:
    • Data18 (http://www.data18.com/) - Right now it's probably the most up-to-date and one of the most comprehensive porn databases on the Internet. It's not perfect (it has some gaps, particularly with older stuff), but it's the first place where I look. 
    • IAFD (http://iafd.com/) - It used to be THE adult film database, and it probably still has more information than anybody, but since its founder died it's been lagging behind. Still worth checking it, particularly their 'tattoo search' option of the advanced search, which has helped me identify a fair number of performers.
    • Adult Film Database (http://www.adultfilmdatabase.com/) - IAFD's main competitor has never been quite as good, but its own advanced search is worth checking, particularly if the performer happens to have a piercing.
    • Indexxx (https://www.indexxx.com/) - If Data18 has become the best place to look for performers, this is probably the best site to look for nude models. In particular, I very much like how the users help identify aliases and avoid duplicated pages.
    • TheNude (https://seraglio.thenude.eu/) - Similar to Indexxx but with a more professional look, its best feature is an advanced search engine that allows you to filter by website/producer. It sometimes takes forever to load, though.
    • Eurobabeindex (http://eurobabeindex.com/) - A database specialized in European performers and models, which are the most prone to use different aliases (or not be credited at all) thus making it more difficult to track them down. One of its best features is that on every profile they list the URLs of the sites they've worked for, which allows you to introduce one of those URLs on the search engine and obtain a list of models/performers.
    • HotMovies - I can't link to it because it's an adult video store (and so it would be spam), but I have to mention it because it has a very large database of movies, and a scene preview system with big thumbnails that is very helpful to check content quickly.
    In any of both cases, if the scene/album you are looking for is professional it is always worth checking the source websites directly. Most of them have models and scene listings, and their own search engine, but even if they do not there is a simple way to check its contents using Google. To do so you have to use the formula "[search term] site:[site URL]". For instance, if you are looking for an Asian performer in Brazzers and you don't know her name, you can type "asian site:brazzers.com" in Google, and you will get a list of pages from that website with the term "asian" on it. Please note that they might not be all the pages with that term, only the ones Google has indexed, but it's still a good way to search.

    There is another use for that search tool. When you use the formula "site:[site URL]", whether you use a search term or not, Google will offer you the same options as with any other search, including 'Images' and 'Video'. If you click on them you MIGHT see all the images and videos that Google has listed from that site (Please note that this does not work with all sites, particularly the images option). This is another good way to check content from a website quickly.
       
    SEARCHES WITH NO INFORMATION

    This is the worst-case scenario: when you have no idea where an image/video comes from or the identity of the models/performers. Even so, if what you are looking for is professional there are still ways to search. 

    A very good source for videos you have zero information about are VOD (video on demand) commercial websites like VideosZ and VideoBox (no links to avoid spam), which have scene filters that allow you to narrow them down by performer characteristics, fetish or type of scene. You can also try with the advanced search engines of IAFD or AdultFilmDatabase, although the results will be much broader.

    If that doesn't work, though, my last resort would be to perform a general search in Google (or sometimes Bing). The difficulty here is choosing the terms of search. My experience tells me that you cannot use more than three terms if you want to get precise results, better yet if it's just two, and that they have to be as specific as possible (PLEASE NOTE: if the terms are too generic Google will not give you adult-related results unless you add the word "porn", "sex" or something similar to the search). For example, "blonde sex" will offer too many results, but "platinum blonde anal" will narrow things down considerably. Pay attention to any details that might differentiate that scene from others (scenario, clothes, physical characteristics like tattoos or piercings, sex positions, fetishes), and then try to reduce it to just three words.

    Finally, there's the question of amateur porn. In most cases you are probably shit out of luck because there's so much now, and so badly credited (a great deal of it comes from leaks/unauthorized publications), that it's usually impossible to find. There are still a few places where you can look, though:
    • Clips4Sale (http://clips4sale.com/) - Probably the biggest amateur-ish porn seller. Most of it caters some kind of fetish, so if you find an amateur video with BDSM or other particular theme which has some production values it's worth checking it. Its search engine is kind of terrible, though.
    • MyDirtyHobby (http://www.mydirtyhobby.com/) - A German site that also sells amateur porn which tends to be a bit more generic (lots of exhibitionism, though), but better produced than usual.
    • VoyeurWeb (http://www.voyeurweb.com/) - The free side of RedClouds, one of the largest non-commercial amateur porn communities. It offers just a sample of all the content, but if you suspect it might come from here (mature women and lots of posing are two defining characteristics), its a place to start.
    VIDEOS

    In addition to all the advice above, one last recommendation related to videos: use Bing. It's as good as Google but a) you don't need to specify you are looking for porn (just turn Safe Search off and you're good to go), and b) it has a big thumbnail grid with mouseover previews that is great to find what you are looking for.
  • edited December 2016
    ANNEX: RULES & CONDITIONS

    If you want my help finding a name or source please call @inadaptado in Smutty, or send me a private message in Smutty or Fantasti.cc. I will do my best to answer your request as soon as possible (it might take longer on weekends because I still have a life outside the Internet).

    Please note, though, that my help is subject to a few rules and conditions:

    1) I DO accept requests of the following formats:
    • Images, gifs, and videos.
    • Straight and gay sex.
    • Professionals and amateurs (please note the latter is a lot harder and I have a much lower rate of success than the former).
    • Softcore and hardcore.
    • Vanilla and fetish porn (but not everything, see below).
    2) I do NOT accept requests on any of the following forbidden topics:
    • Underage models - If before or after a search I'm aware a model is under 18 I will report it myself without giving any answer or warning.
    • Bestiality - Only human porn with other humans, thanks.
    • Prolapse - I would not touch that with a ten-feet pole.
    • Shit or vomit - Pee is fine. I'm not entirely sure how I feel about anal creaming, though.
    • Doxxing - That means finding and disclosing personal information (full name, address, place of work) of a person, particularly amateurs. I do not possess the skills to do that, and even if I did it's at best morally questionable and at worst a potential crime.
    3) In Smutty, I do not credit images or videos posted by spammers and bots. Mostly because I do not want to help people who are abusing the system in their benefit (usually by using unrelated tags), but also because there's a chance they will eventually be kicked out of the site, which would make any search a waste of time.

    Whenever I come across one of these users I put them on my ignore list, so even if you ask me to credit one of their uploads in a comment I will not see your call. This is my current list:
    4) Sometimes I post links using the ad-supported shortening service Adfly. I only do this for videos (not galleries or ordinary URLs), and only when it's the full scene and in a decent quality. Why? Because I spend an inordinate amount of time searching for names and sources, and, even though this is a hobby, and I truly like doing it, I do not want to feel like I'm completely wasting that time. This way I get something back, even though it's literally just a few pennies every month (for real), and all you have to do is wait for a few seconds to skip the ad and watch the video I found for you.

    5) If I'm bored I will sometimes browse the #whois tag in Smutty, and answer some requests. But if they are not addressed to me (by calling @inadaptado) I will not make an extra effort to answer everything, only the ones I find more easily.

    6) I'm open to chatting, flirting, questions, and bribes. Don't forget I'm in a straight monogamous relationship, though! ;)
  • @ inadaptado can you find the vid of the 1 smutty pic link  on my profile here.http://smutty.com/s/CvhAy/
  • @miasm26 Done. The answer is in the Smutty page.
  • edited August 2016
    @inadaptado Can you find this please?
    tried the image reverse but im kinda newb, sorry if posting links isnt allowed, again im new to forums stuff

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    http://xhamster.com/movies/3311489/hot_brunette_fucked_by_the_pool.html

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  • @makiu I've removed the image link because it's a bit spam-y, but don't worry about it. I will have a look and see if I can find something, although I'm not very hopeful: there are big gaps in our records of 90s porn, so it's usually hard to find stuff.
  • ok, ill keep an eye on this, that is a hard movie, someone should know at least 1 performer and thanks for replying. Cheers!
  • Can you find her name. I tried following your steps but did not have any good luck. She is on my uploaded pics: http://fantasti.cc/user/adblol/images/image/5829111/
  • @makiu Still working on yours. It's pretty difficult but I had a bit of help and found a clue. Let's hope it pans out.

  • @inadaptado Thanks for your time man, if you got any clue i could search the rest.
  • edited August 2016

    @inadaptado Can you find the name of the amateur pornstar featured in this gallery? There are lots of duplicate images online, but none of them lead to a name and I'd like to find more from this girl:

  • @makiu Let me chase it first, and if I can't find anything I will give you what I have.

    @eaurouge44 Dude, that's not a pornstar, those pictures have been clearly leaked. Not cool.
  • Oh ok, I'll remove the link then.
  • Hey Thanks for the great tip. Also I found this Photo-shopped image of Taylor and Ive been trying to find the original model and photoshoot for ages. If you could help me out I would be greatly thankful. Cheers :)

  • @raighnar Sure thing. Here's the original: http://img4.pixhost.org/images/2782/18205782_mot4.jpg

    The model is Zdenka Podkapova and the photoshoot comes from Mystique Magazine:
  • WoW you really are good. Thanks man <3 :)
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